AFFILIATES BEWARE: Will Your State Kill Your Business with the Amazon Tax?
by John Paul Micek · Filed Under: General QuanSite news
Colorado just killed thousands of small businesses whose revenues are based on affiliate sales. They follow on the tail 3 other states with similar laws in place already, and 14 more states nipping at their heels. Here’s why, whether you are an affiliate, or you run an affiliate program, you need to know how this rabid pack of looters can do serious damage to your business, maybe even kill it all together.
Amazon first to fight back . . .
When Colorado passed this new onerous tax law, they forced Amazon’s hand. With one of the world’s largest affiliate programs, Amazon had learned from their experience with New York state when NY passed an Affiliate Nexus Tax. Amazon immediately notified every affiliate in Colorado that they were canceling their affiliate referral program in the state.
Basically they called Colorado’s bluff (CO didn’t think they would ever do what they did) and in the process they took a stand for us all.
You see, New York, along with North Carolina and Rhode Island have enacted laws saying that if a retailer runs an affiliate program with referral payments, that’s enough to trigger tax collection requirements. It has to do with “nexus”, which we’ll get to in a minute.
California, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, New Mexico, Vermont, and Virginia are among those states with similar measures currently pending; in Virginia, one chamber of the state legislature has approved the bill.
The law is called the Affiliate Nexus Tax, AKA the “Amazon Tax” for Amazon’s ongoing legal battle with New York state on the unconstitutionality of the law. It’s the latest in a series of efforts to increase taxes by eliminating the long-standing “physical presence” standard and replace it with a nebulous, arbitrary standard of “economic presence.” Physical vs. economic presence is HUGE when it comes to nexus.
But the fact that Amazon has deep pockets and is able to fight this is a help to us all — affiliates and business owners with affiliate programs alike.
The deadly danger of the Amazon Tax & Affiliate Nexus
Aside from the unconstitutionality of these laws, the ass-backward logic of raising taxes on the businesses on whom the recovery depends, and the over-reaching of states beyond their borders; the most pressing concern you need to have is the language these new tax bills use.
Common language from the bills includes:
A person with no physical presence in the state is presumed to be engaging in business in the state if:
1. that person enters into an agreement with an in-state resident under which the resident, for a commission or other consideration, directly or indirectly refers potential customers, whether by link or an Internet web site, to that person; and
2. the cumulative gross receipts from sales by that person attributable to referred customers by all residents with such an agreement are greater than $10,000 during the preceding 12-month period.
(To get the full story on this business-killing new tax scheme, I suggest you read the executive summary report on the Affiliate Nexus Tax / Amazon Tax put together by the TaxFoundation.org.
If you’re an affiliate . . .
As an affiliate, at first glance you may think; “Well $10-grand, that won’t affect me.”
But whoa! Hold on there! That’s EXACTLY what these looters want you to think. Take half-a-minute to think about it and you quickly see that $10,000 equals just a little over $800 per month. That’s $200 per week!
Doesn’t that change your perception a little?
Starting to see how this could impact you now, not just “the big guys”?
On the flip side . . .
I can tell you that as an owner running an affiliate program, we are watching this VERY closely. I’m waiting for a final decision from our Corporate CPA right now on whether we should risk the wrath of these looting states, or play it safe and immediately cancel affiliate programs in states where these laws are passed.
If you are running an affiliate program, you need to be aware of what potentially can come your way with the Amazon Tax. For one, out-of-state businesses are required to collect sales tax based on where the customer is located under the Affiliate Nexus Tax. So each retailer, no matter how large or small, must track 8,000+ sales tax rates and bases. Further, these constantly change and (contrary to common assumptions) are not aligned with even 5-digit zip codes, let alone 9-digit zip codes.
Nexus shmexus — it’s about taking your hard-earned money
States are coming up with their own rules on what creates a “nexus” in their borders. And desperate for money, they are reaching further and further to try to make that definition fit their looting ways. For example, CA is about to start claiming nexus if you hire an independent contractor (and that could be a lawyer, CPA, coach/consultant, virtual assistant, you name it) from CA.
Once you have nexus in a state, you then have to be set up to collect and pay sales tax in that state. And CA is going even further in claiming they have rights to tax your income as well. (But that’s another law and a whole another post on it’s own.)
What you need to do to protect your business
Simple! Pay attention and get involved. Far, FAR too many business owners say “Ah politics, I don’t have time for politics.” Well this is a perfect example of why ignoring what goes on in Washington and in your state capital will reap a whirlwind of looters and moochers banging on your front door.
If you live in one of the four states where an Affiliate Nexus or Amazon Tax has passed already (New York, Colorado, North Carolina and Rhode Island) — contact your state representatives, state senators and governors office. Let your voice be heard.
Ditto if you live in one of the seven other states (California, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, New Mexico, Vermont, and Virginia) that have legislation pending in in process already.
Then — monitor the news so you can stay on top of your State representatives too. This is where Google Alerts would come in handy. Just go to Google Alerts, sign up for a free account, then enter your alert terms “affiliate nexus tax + (your state)” and “Amazon tax + (your state)“. So your alert search term if you lived in California would look like “Amazon tax + California“, without the quotes. You can choose to be alerted to news immediately or once per day.
History is overflowing with the results of political apathy. the most notable recent lesson being Nazi Germany where Pastor Martin Niemöller famously said:
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Don’t be that person. No one is going to stand up for you. In fact, in this increasingly anti free-market environment that we have to do business in, you’re more likely to have moochers standing up and cheering as the looters take what you’ve worked your butt off for.
What does your entrepreneurial spirit tell you?
Since the founding of our country businesses could always ply their trade across state lines. Today, with the internet, even the smallest businesses can more easily reach across geographical borders to sell their products and services in all fifty states.
But now that business is increasingly being exposed to oppressive tax compliance and liability risks in states where they merely have “customers”, NOT a presence — they will be less likely to expand their reach into those states. And that will further hurt they economy, not help it.
How will the Amazon Tax impact your business?
What are you going to do about to stop the Affiliate Nexus Tax or reverse it?
Shout out your thoughts in a comment below.
And pass the link to this post along. Tweet it, Facebook it, DIGG it! Our voices must be heard if we are going to reverse this tide and preserve our liberty and entrepreneurial freedom.
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UPDATE AFTER POSTING: After speaking with our Corporate CPA she confirmed — “If they catch you, they will tax you. To my knowledge size is irrelevant.” Good luck!
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John Paul Micek is founder of RPM Success Group ® Inc., the leader in software, systems & strategic coaching to double your bottom-line in under 12mos in the New Economy. QuanSite New media marketing software is one of those resources. He is author of the first published book on New Media marketing, the best seller Secrets Of Online Persuasion.





This is incredible! I live in New York State and had no idea this was going on! Yes I know that I have to collect sales tax from the products that I sell in NY state, but I did not know about the affiliate sales!
Thank you very much for this post!
Joyce Jagger
The Embroidery Coach
JP, I was informed by Amazon of this on Monday. I had to remove my link from my Quan$ite, (actually replaced it with a notice to anyone visiting what greedy, irresponsible bastards they are) since I reside in Colorado. I then tweeted it extensively.
So does this also mean that I should remove myself from being an affiliate of Quan$ite? or are you looking into it the same as Amazon?
It seems that every time we little guys turn around, big brother decides to chop off our heads, and stifle any chance of improving the economy.
Some kids learn not to touch a hot stove, others go into politics.
Tim
Wow! I’m in Colorado too! I think starting a Colorado association of internet marketers would be a good move. I can imagine clickbank canceling all the accounts in each of these states. It’s unbelievable to me that “educated” law-makers would enact such a short-sighted measure.
JP & Deb thanks so much for the GR8 article!!! I just got an email yesterday canceling my affiliate status with amazon – as I’m a Colorado resident. Having to re-think a lot of things. Please keep us posted of your thoughts on the subject. Thinking of becoming a Nevada LLC – but even then what if I’m a QuanSite affiliate and I’m selling it to someone in Colorado??? or…
Great post John Paul, absolutely amazing! I hope everyone see that our Country and capitalism as we know it is under attack and we must take action.
Thanks for your part and bringing this to our attention.
Greg Writer
Marketing Expert
Tim, Stevie & Cary — my condolences for the CO address.
As far as QuanSite, I have our corporate CPA looking into things. We’ll keep our affiliates updated. It’s complicated because these states are intentionally keeping things nebulous so they can go after anyone they want. And the language used in each of these new tax grabs is different in each state. It’s a mess . . . but what isn’t a mess that the government touches?
Oh, and BTW Cary — Nevada corp will not help with this situation. These states don’t care about the corporate structure. It’s all about the sales taxes and putting the burden of collection and/or reporting on the business owner. The language sued in CO and the pending CA bill open a door to income tax cross-over though. That is what is scary. CA is notoriously overreaching when it comes to nexus in general.
Greg — thank my friend! Taking it to em’. Just wait til you see my new book.
Thank you JP.
We all need to fight this tax as it will really hurt the recovery of our economy. Hopefully Governor: Arnold Schwarzenegger “The Terminator” will stop it in the tracks for CA. He is not stupid.
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JP, thanks so much for this article. Appreciate all you do to keep us informed.
Thanks,
Pat WB
As John said this has been going on for some time in states like CA. We did business there in 2005; I am a resident of Texas and was serving a customer from Illinois. Two years later out of the blue I get a “nexus” tax invoice for $18,000.00 with interest totaling another $18,000.00 – yes $36,000.00 and we had 10 days to pay it. I spent the next year, countless hours and thousands of dollars disputing it. The States interpretation will never be in favor of the business. We “won” the case but it could have gone either way.
It appears they are broadening the language so they can pursue more cases. Keep in mind for tax collecting agencies it is simply a numbers game… and it is usually those who can least afford it who they go after and intimidate into paying… we were so intimidated that for a moment we thought we might just have to pay to make it go away… it is a major distraction from running a business… the interest continues to accrue… and it will challenge the entrepreneur in all of us.
Hi John – great post, if somewhat alarming.
I’m actually based in the UK, developing a business which I hope will span other countries such as US and Australia – mainly thro my quansite!
Any feedback on how it might affect us non-US residents?
thanks
Tanya
Yes Steve, there are horror stories galore re: Nexus. I had a friend in Hawaii who went to CA for a business meeting with a new partner, and a year later CA sent him a bill for a few grand in taxes. Luckily he told them to screw off and they actually left him alone.
These states, especially ones like CA, NY, RI…they are desperate for money to keep funding their unsustainable welfare states, and things are getting WAY out of hand.
I hope more business people wake up so we can stop things like the Affiliate Nexus Tax — and ALL the over-reaching and destruction of our freedoms by government taking place. WE as producers are the targets. It frustrates me when so many entrepreneurs are oblivious to these facts. So I’m not relying on “hope,” but instead taking action doing what I can to remove the blinders before it’s too late.
Hi JP!
A bill was to be introduced to repeal this part of the RI budget bill back in January. It’s still being bandied about. No surprise there.
“A Rhode Island advertising tax REPEAL bill was expected to be introduced on the House floor yesterday. It deletes the section of the law that was added in Article 16, section 8 of the enacted FY 2010 budget, which created the online advertising tax passed last year. The bill is sponsored by Rep. Gallison and co-sponsored by Reps. McNamara and Serpa.”
Even RI’s state treasurer, Frank Caprio, came out heavily against the passage of this “advertising tax”. He doesn’t vote on legislation but he is influential in the state.
He even said on TV once that it is a stupid tax that will made NO impact on incoming tax revenues.
(If anything, it will LOSE more revenue because the affiliates will not have much income to tax now.)
http://www.performancemarketingassociation.com/blog/2010/01/14/new-rhode-island-legislation-to-reverse-advertising-tax/
RI, being the smallest state, also has the smallest “brain trust” amongst lawmakers. heh heh
Enjoy the SoCal weather!
Rick Wilson
As a NC resident, I have already been kicked by the Amazon tax. I had built up a substantial business with Amazon and a particular supplier in CJ. Amazon just dropped everyone before the tax was passed. The CJ supplier was almost worse – had a large Halloween business and they just dropped all NC affiliates Sept 1 – no warning – right during the height of Halloween season. Wasted innumerable hours preparing for the season to get kicked out with no warning.
I am concerned by the people who talked about getting California tax bills when they either had a meeting in Cal or just had some business there. Since I do consulting nationwide, I sure would appreciate more details on what to watch for. What is CA using as criteria for sending a tax bill, and what are they taxing?
Jeanette
Since I do not reside in (Example- California)
Isn’t a requirement for me to collect and/or pay
taxes to (Example- California)TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION ??
I can’t vote for or against the idiots that are passing
these stupid- UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws ! NOTE: these are the same
idiots that put California into it’s curent financial mess !!
Looks like the rest of us should all move our businesses to Mexico,
Canada, or the Caymans ??
John Paul Micek
‘Basically they called Colorado’s bluff (CO didn’t think they would ever do what they did) and in the process they took a stand for us all.’
Colorado knew what Amazon was going to do after all they did it to North Carolina Vermont and Hawaii already. No real surprise or news there.
Hawaii had the brains to kill the deal and get reinstated as Amazon affiliates.
Way way too much government in ours lives.
In North America (I’m Canadian in Toronto) we have a common disease called HUB disease.
Head Up Butt Syndrom. Most folks in these forums are much more aware than the other bigger half of the masses where this disease runs rampent.
No problem giving their lives over to a bunch over paid bureaucrats.
My link goes to a great post on one of my blogs which I did not write but expanded on and shared because it is really important as you say above for folks to WAKE UP!
The article is about the looters controlling the producers.
Page 410 of Atlas Shrugged.
This is scary acurate to what we are seeing now in N.A.
I for one am ready to get the pitch forks out.
I know it’s strong but I’m p—– about this ever expanding government.
I can’t stand it when these scheming looters try to find more and more ways to steal our money. You’d think it is common sense that if you kill the “golden goose” of the economy (The Producers) you will ultimately kill the economy (if you haven’t read it yet, Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand is almost Prophetic about what is going on right before our eyes) . Contrary to Mr. O. b. a.m.a “spreading the wealth around” does not make it better for everyone else.
What am I doing about it? One of my consulting clients is “The Thomas Jefferson Center For Constitutional Studies” (http:www.ThomasJeffersonCenter.com) – An education company dedicated to teaching the masses about the Constitution from the viewpoint of the founding fathers, not from the raped and pillaged viewpoint of the current, corrupt, socialist leaders of our country.
The owners are the Daughter and Son in Law of W. Cleon Skousen (Author of the 5,000 Year Leap)
We need to get more people educated on the principles, freedoms and rights protected by the constitution so they can see and know when they are being stripped away… THAT is what I am doing about it
I’ve met Deb a few times (Tell her I said “Hi”
and talked to her a lot in Vegas a while back about all the garbage going on in the government right now, she mentioned that You and I would get along great. I’d love to connect and work together more closely on how to turn around the direction of our dying Republic.
Thanks for the Post, I’ll Keep and Eye on Utah.
Kimball
Jeanette — “What is CA using as criteria for sending a tax bill, and what are they taxing?” LOL! Their “criteria” is anythign their looting minds can imagine and make palatable for Schwarzenegger to sign.
CA is the poster child for using Nexus to rip money out of hard working producers hands. CA politicians are desperate to feed one of the hungriest most socialist state gov’t in the US by constantly over-reaching and violating the Constitution. They enact the laws, go after the little guy who and count on collecting millions until someone with deep enough pockets fights back. See this as just one example of the arrogance of CA politicians.
Jeff – “Colorado knew what Amazon was going to do”…yes, and yet they did it anyway. Their plan of making Amazon looking like a “greedy evil big business” is what backfired. The people are awaking from their slumber.
Nicholas — anyone who wants to see where we are and the EXACT road map for where we are going unless people wake up and create a revolution only needs to read Atlas Shrugged. It is frightening how Ayn Rand so clearly saw where America was heading writing 50+years ago.
Kimball — Thanks for ThomasJeffersonCenter.com. Great resource. We need to talk & get them on QuanSite. We could triple their page rank and double even that for their traffic. I’ll shoot you an email I think you’ll LOVE my new book that will be out early Summer. VERY timely and I’m sure it will make a lot of enemies . . . but create MANY more raving fans.
OK,
I’ll bite. The fact that states are also working no destination sales tax vs. origination sales tax has also complicated life a bit.
Keep the playing field level comes to mind. Two people doing business: one does not pay tax and the other does. This brings conflict. If there is to be an equity in the system, how is it created?
Amazon taking a stand and telling affiliates in a state “no more”.
Hmmm… that is an eye opener.
It is easier for the legal system to hold the big boys at tne center accountable than the many independent affiliates. It is only a matter of time. I feel fortunate for living in a time where so much automation exists. Only a matter of time… “how do we tax the internet income” will never go away.
I am on your bandwagon now with sending the message….
http://www.michaelhartzell.com/Blog/bid/36705/Affiliates-Beware-Will-Your-State-Kill-Your-Business-with-Amazon-Tax
Will refer those in need to your resource.
thank you.
@michaelhartzell
(I remember when it became the restaurant’s responsibility to ensure tax compliance by waiters and waitresses. Income was not being reported. Forced compliance was put in place. The journey continues)
BTW — if the idea of reading all 1,200+ pages of Atlas Shrugged seems too daunting, I suggest you AT LEAST pick up the Cliff Notes version of Atlas Shrugged.
Read the Cliff Notes version first, then the full book as it is well worth the read to get the full scope of where we’re headed. Jeesh, I mean Francisco d’Anconia’s “money” speech & Galt’s “this is John Galt speaking” cover nearly a hundred pages on their own. No way to Cliff Note those. And that is why I STRONGLY recommend you read the book or get the audio version of Atlas Shrugged– even if it takes you 6-mos to go through.
Thanks for the warning JP. I
‘m tired of all the way California is trying to raise money. They should give all the legislators a pay cut like they did to the teachers.
I had to pay over $500 for a ticket because I didn’t have my sticker on the license tag. I couldn’t ay online and at the window, the lady said I had to see the judge. Two days, five hours later, I had to pay extra for seeing the judge for less than a minute!
No Hawaii, no California, no NYC… where to next?
Joy to you and Deb~
Jeanette
Thanks for your post… Retweeted and your first paragraph and the image with a link to YOUR entire article on my blog at: http://www.daveylee.com/blog
Good Job!
David
This bill could be devastating to so many who rely on online businesses to survive. I’ll definitely be watching this situation closely.
First, I want to say unequivocally that I am opposed to this idiotic tax. However, this is one of those ‘unintended consequences’ of the ill-advised anti-tax movement (as characterized by the cartoon included above). On one had, we citizens demand more social and emergency services from our government, while, at the same time, asking it to do this with less. The percentage of income going to taxes today is less than what it was in the 1950’s. So the Federal government responds by cutting back aid to the states, and state governments are left holding the bag and going bankrupt because of it. Yet, we blame them for trying to find new ways to stay afloat. Some people want their government to ‘pay as you go’ but are unwilling to pay their fair share for the government services that they and their families receive. Hmmm.
Les — re: “ill advised anti-tax movement“. . .ill-advised . . . really!? Help me understand, my recollection of history is that the US became an independent nation by rebelling against, fighting and defeating the most powerful nation in the world at the time because of unfair taxes? Aren’t the affiliate Nexus / Amazon Taxes unfair?
re: “we citizens demand more social and emergency services from our government, while, at the same time, asking it to do this with less” The first part may be true, the second half is only regaining prominence now because of the rampant waste and corruption in government.
First – let me respectfully say before commenting on this, PLEASE — don’t put me in your “we.” I want the government out of my way, to be protected FROM my government, not given things by it.
Second – could it be that statement is focused on the noise and not the signal? Many in society have become dependent on the government for this program or that. But few have the courage to look for the source of that dependence. Liberal and progressive policies mixing social engineering with economics have resulted in unsustainable Ponzi schemes like Social Security, wealth redistribution programs like Welfare, et’al. These are the source of dependency, the signal. Until the signal is changed the noise will only grow louder.
Third – Contrary to the claims of supporters, Amazon taxes do not provide easy revenue. In fact, the nation’s first few Amazon taxes have not produced any revenue at all, and there is some evidence of lost revenue. For instance, Rhode Island has seen no additional sales tax revenue from its Amazon tax, and because Amazon reacted by discontinuing its affiliate program, Rhode Islanders are earning less income and paying less income tax.
Re: “fair share“ — not quite sure who you’re talking about here. I’ll assume you’re talking about a voter demanding that government pay as they go (like we all have to) yet they are sucking the system dry. Then that is hypocritical and part of the problem.
However, when I hear “fair share” it usually is directed at the “wealthy” (and in today’s anti-capitalist environment that means business owners) — and that is patently false. The top 1% (1.4 mil taxpayers) pay more income tax than the bottom 95% taxpayers combined http://is.gd/9GzKL So much 4 “fair share”
Philosophically, I am not in favor of higher or more taxes, but I am in favor of the tax burden being evening shared by the entire business community. Internet merchants have enjoyed tremendous protections from competition for a long time now, and I believe it’s time for them to pay their fair share.
There really is no difference between having a brick and mortar location so called affiliates promoting your products and services throughout the country, even though you have no physical presence there. Affiliate alliances have simply become a way to circumvent the collection of sales and use taxes, and our economy is seeing the results of that lost tax revenue.
This tax will not kill affiliate businesses. I believe that is merely an alarmest response to change. Most Internet merchants still experience tremendous savings over brick and mortar businesses because most do not have to pay rent for retail locations, and their advertising costs are typically cheaper than their traditional retail counterparts.
I don’t blame Amazon and other affiliate marketers for attempting to protect their territory, but I believe they are really saying is that everyone else should pay tax except for us.
Glenn — Trust me, I’ve built five off-line businesses so I know the disadvantage that off-line businesses have compared to online merchants. This is mainly difference a mainly confined to retailers though and not all off-line businesses.
The fact is though that “Amazon Taxes” do not level the playing field between brick-and-mortar and Internet-based businesses. They put the incredible burden of requiring Internet-based businesses to track thousands of sales tax bases and rates while brick-and-mortar businesses need to track only one. (Please refer to the Amazon Tax executive summary report I linked to in the article above)
Of even greater concern is the unconstitutionality of expansive nexus standards like the Amazon tax and how they undermine legal certainty, burden interstate commerce, and harm economic growth. Wouldn’t you agree that is a cost to our freedoms that should NOT be paid even if tax advantages/disadvantages be standardized?
This country is far from beaten. What the brit hasn’t seen is the sleeping anger that american citizens build just before they put their boots on and go to kicking. Our government has foolishly tested those lines this time and it won’t be forgotten.
JP,
It is no surprise that the government is chopping up the small business owners in our country. They want a level playing field of people dependent on the government for everything. Soon, only corporations with huge legal teams and the government will have the resources to do any kind of commerce. Everyone else will be sliced and diced until they can’t continue.
Luckily for me, I live in Florida, which until now has been sort of keeping out of the ecommerce business. I don’t know how much longer that will be, because all it takes is someone from CO, NY or CA to tell them how much more they are making (if the fantasy numbers that they envision come true – but that is a whole different ball of wax)…
Anyway, let’s not get me started…lol!
Thanks, JP for a great, eye-opening article!
Micheal
Michael — thanks!
As far as Florida, they are on the path to looting as well, only a little more techie in nature. What Florida is proposing to do is have its own Dept of Revenue develop something called Internet Sales Tax Automated Revenue Tracking (iSTART for short). This will be software that attaches to the credit card processing function of online websites, and will force credit card companies to collect and remit the sales tax for FL merchants/residents at the time of purchase.
Obviously this is a whole new level of looting, but at least it removes the onerous record keeping other Affiliate Nexus Taxes place on the business. But just imagine — you’d have gov’t workers building software that would handle millions of dollars in transaction when they can’t even deliver mail properly. Who would be responsible in the case of a hacker getting into a processing system through the FL state software?
Here’s the info on the two Amazon Tax like bills being considered in FL.
John,
I agree that the administrative burden may be high the way things are currently structured, but my understanding from reading most of the feedback on this issue is that people didn’t think it was fair to pay the tax at all. I’m sure there is a way to create a less burdensome way for the taxes to be collected and remitted if that is the focus rather than whether “net” retailers should be able to avoid taxes at all.
For example, if the sale is deemed made in the state where the net retailer maintains its principle place of business, regardless of where the affiliates are, that would simplify it. At least one state would be collecting sales tax, and assuming that affiliate program operators are located pretty much all over the place it would even itself out. That’s obviously just one approach. I’m sure there are others.
I am all for liberty. If it was up to me I’d reduce the size of government and eliminate many taxes altogether. My point is that it’s not logical to me to differentiate between who has to pay tax and who doesn’t based only on whether they are selling on the Web or selling local through traditional retail channels.
I’d be for a flat tax on all purchases and simply have one central collecting agent that remits back to the states based on where sales originated. I’m sure this could be done if people really wanted to address the issues.
And, as long as we are on this topic I’m sure this whole thing is either being caused by global warming or it’s George Bush’s fault. LOL!
Thanks for your thoughts John.
I wonder if we contact out Senators and Congress people stating that we should promote the fact that our state does not have this tax and therefore a great place for those whose states do have it to move. Maryland did a similar thing regarding millionaire tax. It was a gamble and they lost money because people moved out of state. Backfire. Fail. If all the states that don’t have this Nexus and Amazon tax would promote this we would have a greater economy in our state with the new residents.
I can not for the life of me follow the need to be taxed further. Regardless whether I generate income on line or at a brick/mortar building at this time in our history is flat out wrong. We constantly see any government program is faulty from the get-go because the people that work in these entities are the ‘lazy-can’t-work-in-the-real-world’ individuals. I had to deal with many when working for an engineering company and was made to run in multiple circles to get permits for construction. The simple and most economical solutions were thrown out in order to cost exceedingly more to all involved and waste more time.
The government has never shown any validity in running anything well and because of this inadequacy, they have to charge a ‘tax’ or fee to get by, add more employees and pay for hardships.
As an individual trying hard to find a way to work during these times and having more taken away, watching more dishonesty everyday just drives me nuts. To say that we should pay our ‘fair share’ again only reiterates that mismanagement is around the corner, with future fees required to build it up further.
The bottom line is this will never end. What is going to be next?
“… small businesses whose revenues are based on affiliate sales”? “Hard-earned money?” Plastering your Web site with affiliate ads is hard work?
Boo. Hoo.
The only reason states are doing this is because they’re losing out on sales tax revenues. They have to make this money back somehow.
And really: how many people are making any reasonable amount of money on affiliate advertising? Who clicks ads online these days?
If a small business person wants to make money, he/she should provide goods or services to customers — not rely on click revenue from a Web site crapped up with advertising.
Maria — while I agree with your comment re: hoping to create “revenue from a Web site crapped up with advertising”, the Amazon tax impacts ANYONE making a commission of of referral sales. There are a good number of online marketers who make six and seven figure income from the promotion of products costing a few hundred to several dollars.
BTW — I also agree re: providing goods and services that people can use. That is the only way to build a real business. A few highly skilled marketers do fall into that category by promoting goods and services that are well made but not well marketed. That is a service in itself.